Evidence for God from Science

Big questions! Let me just say that questions like these just go away after you come into a true personal relationship with Him. This may not satisfy you for now, which is all really that one can expect, but it's true. How then, "ignoring" such questions, can I be sure my understanding of God and reality is correct? It sounds foolish, but you just know! This is a very intelligent just-knowing, however, because it is God's Spirit within you, (which cannot lie, and knowing God intimately you understand that He absolutely cannot,) which testifies to this. There's no ifs, ands or buts about it- you just get it. The Bible is God's infallible Word, God Himself makes us able to understand Him, and this is all imparted into the depths of our beings, (or should be,) by the Holy Spirit. When you are given this knowledge by His Spirit, there is no issue!

If not everything in the Bible is exactly what it says, then what does it say? Many things are exegetically clear, and if God isn't the one and only God, then the Bible is wrong. Just because you may not understand the Trinity does not mean you can whimsically exegete Scripture as you like to insert polytheism. Now is it possible that Christianity could be wrong, and there are really multiple "gods"? Yes, it seems to me logically possible, but I am certain Christianity is right.

Kurieuo.

This is not an all or nothing situation. We can know God without knowing Him completely. Also, God has said things that cancel out the possibility of many things. Too lazy to look it up, but I'm sure God says He's the one true God.

The idea of god came into existence with the connection of seperate areas of the brain that allow consious thought. that was our begining, and it was his too. from the first time we started interacting with others and the environment we found that we would need guidelines on how to treat others, and answers to questions that we could not answer, like why does the sun go up and down. the greatness of all this and the need for a greater answer than ourselves came God, when we were monkies hanging in the tree we could not comprehend the ideas we would later need, we evolved to beleive, he evolved to our ability, other beings like god will always exist, because it is inevitable that gods ideals will simply be put with a different title,

So since God was apparently invented to sustain guidelines on how to treat others, are you saying Atheists are therefore unable to be moral? If no, than a lot of your argument is eroded. If yes, then I'm sure you'll find many an Atheist who would like to debate that point with you.

Kurieuo.

Jbirdangel, Kurieuo hasn't said so yet, but I'm sure it was just all misunderstandings. Your post was a bit difficult to understand too, and I hope that I got it okay and that my first post was an adequate response. So, you would consider yourself Christian? I know even Christians question things like those if the Holy Spirit hasn't yet given them, (or they haven't received from Him,) the answers. It is perfectly healthy to question things you aren't positive about, even if they contradict what you already truly believe. God does want to be trusted, but I don't think that you weren't. Again, yes the Bible is God's infallible Word, (as I think you know,) and you are right about the nature of what's in it being different in different places. Allegories and records of history are indeed to be interpreted differently like you said, and I know Kurieou would agree.

And Tash, I'm confused here. Why, saying that God only exists in our intelligent human brains, do you have a glorified cross as your avatar picture?

Tash, tash, tash. We evolved to think about God, I love it. Why haven't older animals (been around longer) come up with the idea? Why don't the monkeys and such that we used to be have any belief? Only man has a desire for purpose and meaning. Man is the lowliest of creatures according to this. The moss can get what it desires-water, sunlight, nutrients, air....man, though, desires meaning, eternal life, and God....in vain. And it's funny how man, unlike animals, functions better if he does believe in God. Even if it is a made up one, he still functions better (Schaeffer, The God Who Is There).

JBirdAngel wrote:right as i said in my post it clearly says that God is the only god and such, also Kurieuo i dont really understand yoru post, but it makes me feel as if your attacking me in ways kind of, which i doubt is your intent...

kateliz wrote:Kurieuo hasn't said so yet, but I'm sure it was just all misunderstandings.

Kateliz is right to some extent, in that you have taken my comments or emotion used way too personally. My comments if anything were meant to inspire a deeper analysis of what you accept as "givens" within your questions, before running off with your questions.

Yet, any cynicism you detected is likely a reaction to the majority of your posts being, "I'm confused," "I don't understand," "what does this mean," etc? To be upfront it has appeared to me as though you were someone with an agenda to push, pretending to be desiring answers, when infact you were trying to make points with your questions. I mean you opened up about three different threads on God's nature or the Trinity (this one, and also see the second, and third), ignoring my own thread to do with the Trinity. Mixed with the rest of your many questions, suspicion gets raised that hang on... why would someone be opening new threads to only ask many questions often with a hint of criticism, and even the same kind of questions multiple times, unless they're trying to make a point with their questions against Christianity?

Now this may or may not be the case with yourself, and I'm not making a judgement about you here as I really don't know (so don't read insult within my words), but as a moderator desiring to uphold to guidelines, I have no be on the lookout not only for those who are upfront with their anti-Christian motives, but also those who are more sneaky. And to be honest, I'm still on the fence with you, as I really do not know what to make of your posts. Time will tell I suppose, but for now I think one thing would help you greatly before posting. There are many great responses by Christians across the Internet to many of your questions, and Google is a great tool for finding them.

JBird wrote:and i dont get your question about everything in the Bible being exactly waht it says, if you think that everything in the Bible is exactly what it says, then that means that you hate your family and friends? because of that verse where Jesus says you must?

My point still stands that the Bible says exactly what it says. Now whether someone misunderstands a part of it because they fail to use proper exegesis, or they read one or two verses entirely out of context, Scripture still says what is says. I would agree that a verse can be misunderstood if taken out of context or on a surface reading (such as the example you point to in Luke 14:26), yet this does not mean Scripture is not really saying what is says. It just means one is not understanding what is said correctly.

Kurieuo.