"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." (Psalm 19:1)
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It is hard to say. Think of it this way... If you know your Friend John. You were best Buddies for 20 years or so!!! All of a sudden you leave and you don't know him any longer. If you looked at him it would be like seeing a stranger. To tell you the truth I would say it was a lie you knowing John for 20 years and be bold enough to say you did not know him in the First place. Now I just don't think that is possible so I think we can use the same analogy for God. If you knew God and fall away... DID you really know him in the First place. Like I said it is hard to say and I know people will jump all over that analogy but it is something to think about.Prodigal Son wrote:what's this once saved always saved idea? can we/do we fall from grace? let's say you're saved and then you lose the holy spirit and everything stops for you (church, prayer, good works) and you start doing "not so christian" things. are you really not saved anymore? i thought you couldn't work towards salvation? or are you still saved; still spared? or have can we fall from grace?
Bizzt's right, it is a difficult subject. But my belief is that once you are saved, you can never be unsaved. Actually, there's a distinction between justification and salvation that plays an important role in understanding the entire concept. If you have the time, here's the place to go: One of the very first threads that got me involved in this board.Prodigal Son wrote:what's this once saved always saved idea? can we/do we fall from grace?
