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Canadian Liberals are back in action AGAIN!!!

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:57 am
by bizzt

Re: Canadian Liberals are back in action AGAIN!!!

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:47 pm
by ochotseat
Looks like we can safely predict that gay marriage will remain a reality in Canada except Alberta of course.
Maybe you Albertans should secede from the union. :wink:

Re: Canadian Liberals are back in action AGAIN!!!

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:55 pm
by sandy_mcd
ochotseat wrote:
bizzt wrote: Amidst confusion over the exact nature of their investigation, the RCMP are probing allegations that a crime was committed when Conservative MP Gurmant Grewal talked to senior Liberals.
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The confusion is swirling around a tape released by the B.C. MP that suggests Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh and Tim Murphy, the prime minister's chief of staff, tried inducing him and his MP wife Nina to cross the floor in the days before the crucial May 20 budget vote. ...
Looks like we can safely predict that gay marriage will remain a reality in Canada except Alberta of course.
Maybe you Albertans should secede from the union. :wink:

is this just a link to current top story of the moment ?

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Re: Canadian Liberals are back in action AGAIN!!!

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:47 pm
by ochotseat
sandy_mcd wrote:
ochotseat wrote:
bizzt wrote: Amidst confusion over the exact nature of their investigation, the RCMP are probing allegations that a crime was committed when Conservative MP Gurmant Grewal talked to senior Liberals.
...
The confusion is swirling around a tape released by the B.C. MP that suggests Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh and Tim Murphy, the prime minister's chief of staff, tried inducing him and his MP wife Nina to cross the floor in the days before the crucial May 20 budget vote. ...
Looks like we can safely predict that gay marriage will remain a reality in Canada except Alberta of course.
Maybe you Albertans should secede from the union. :wink:

is this just a link to current top story of the moment ?

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Why don't you check and see?

It's official

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:02 pm
by ochotseat
Canada 4th Nation to Legalize Gay Marriage
By ROB GILLIES, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 34 minutes ago

TORONTO - Canada legalized gay marriage Wednesday, becoming the world's fourth nation to grant full legal rights to same-sex couples.

Supreme Court Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin signed the legislation making it law, hours after it was approved by the Senate late Tuesday night despite strong opposition from Conservatives and religious leaders.

The bill grants same-sex couples legal rights equal to those in traditional unions between a man and a woman, something already legal in eight of Canada's 10 provinces and in two of its three territories.

The legislation drafted by Prime Minister Paul Martin's minority Liberal Party government easily passed the Senate, which essentially rubber stamps any bill already passed by the House of Commons, which passed it late last month.

The Netherlands, Belgium and Spain are the only other nations that allow gay marriage nationwide.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:04 pm
by ochotseat
So the minority party can overrule the majority party? What a bizarre form of government Canada has!

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:07 pm
by Felgar
ochotseat wrote:So the minority party can overrule the majority party? What a bizarre form of government Canada has!
No, actually, there is no majority party - ie: no party that has over half the seats in the House of Commons. It's much like your House of Representatives, except with 4 major parties you can get them all below 50%. In that case, multiple parties must work together to pass laws. In this case the socialist/communist NDP party teamed up with the usually immoral/corrupt Liberals... Ironically the Quebec party (who you'd think would be predominantly enforcing Catholic morality) also supported the law, so the Conservatives had no power to do anything about it.

In the end though, it's not the government's fault. Rather, it's the people of a nation who elected the government who are to blame. It's the people in Eastern Canada who are betraying their heritage and their beliefs. Maybe the rest of us are to blame for allowing their hearts to stray so far from God. One thing is for sure: If we're going to right this ship, it will have to be done in the form of a revival among the people; our government is only reflecting the will of a perverse population.

It shouldn't be too suprising, in a province (Ontario) that about 5 years ago legalized public nudity, and who has hardcore pornography on a regular movie network nightly after 11:30 pm.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:30 pm
by ochotseat
Felgar wrote: It's much like your House of Representatives
Yes, but we only have two major parties in power, and the Republicans have a slight edge.
except with 4 major parties you can get them all below 50%. In that case, multiple parties must work together to pass laws. In this case the socialist/communist NDP party teamed up with the usually immoral/corrupt Liberals... Ironically the Quebec party (who you'd think would be predominantly enforcing Catholic morality) also supported the law, so the Conservatives had no power to do anything about it.
Doesn't seem as effective as a two party system, which doesn't permit a coalition to overtake one party like that.
It shouldn't be too suprising, in a province (Ontario) that about 5 years ago legalized public nudity

Are you serious? Can you post some proof? Because it's hard to believe that the Canadian people will tolerate that. I don't think the Dutch have even gone that far.
and who has hardcore pornography on a regular movie network nightly after 11:30 pm.
Maybe the Canadian conservatives should flee to America as political refugees. The Republicans can always use new blood.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:55 pm
by Felgar
ochotseat wrote:
It shouldn't be too suprising, in a province (Ontario) that about 5 years ago legalized public nudity

Are you serious? Can you post some proof? Because it's hard to believe that the Canadian people will tolerate that. I don't think the Dutch have even gone that far.
Yeah, thanks to a court decision back in 1996 I guess it was. It doesn't seem long ago really. :) The reader's digest version:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwen_Jacobs

And an in-depth legal summary from a credible source...

http://www.law.ualberta.ca/alri/ulc/cri ... tm#ONTARIO
ochotseat wrote:
and who has hardcore pornography on a regular movie network nightly after 11:30 pm.
Maybe the Canadian conservatives should flee to America as political refugees. The Republicans can always use new blood.
LOL.. No doubt. I actually honestly think that we should be fighting for much greater provincial jurisdiction of power (your states have much, much more autonomy) or else actually be considering seperating. I never thought I would say that, only a mere 5 years ago.

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:57 am
by ochotseat
Felgar wrote: Yeah, thanks to a court decision back in 1996 I guess it was. It doesn't seem long ago really. :) The reader's digest version:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwen_Jacobs
And an in-depth legal summary from a credible source...
http://www.law.ualberta.ca/alri/ulc/cri ... tm#ONTARIO
That case talks about topless nudity, not complete nakedness.
LOL.. No doubt. I actually honestly think that we should be fighting for much greater provincial jurisdiction of power (your states have much, much more autonomy) or else actually be considering seperating. I never thought I would say that, only a mere 5 years ago.
Both our countries are federalist, but many Western countries, including Canada, have parliamentary governments. On the other side, the U.S. has a presidential form of government, which seems to be more democratic.

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:33 am
by bizzt
ochotseat wrote:
Felgar wrote: It's much like your House of Representatives
Yes, but we only have two major parties in power, and the Republicans have a slight edge.
except with 4 major parties you can get them all below 50%. In that case, multiple parties must work together to pass laws. In this case the socialist/communist NDP party teamed up with the usually immoral/corrupt Liberals... Ironically the Quebec party (who you'd think would be predominantly enforcing Catholic morality) also supported the law, so the Conservatives had no power to do anything about it.
Doesn't seem as effective as a two party system, which doesn't permit a coalition to overtake one party like that.
It shouldn't be too suprising, in a province (Ontario) that about 5 years ago legalized public nudity

Are you serious? Can you post some proof? Because it's hard to believe that the Canadian people will tolerate that. I don't think the Dutch have even gone that far.
and who has hardcore pornography on a regular movie network nightly after 11:30 pm.
Maybe the Canadian conservatives should flee to America as political refugees. The Republicans can always use new blood.
Actually the Dutch have gone that Far! They have Nude Beaches everywhere! At least the last time I was there which was about 12 years ago.

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:01 pm
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Wait Wait Wait Felgar....Canadians have a commy party? A legit party whose aim is to destroy all forms of government (which will of course lead to anarchy).

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:41 am
by bizzt
AttentionKMartShoppers wrote:Wait Wait Wait Felgar....Canadians have a commy party? A legit party whose aim is to destroy all forms of government (which will of course lead to anarchy).
Actually NDP is not the Real Commy Party. There is actually one in Vancouver! Well at least there was a person Proudly displaying a Sign on his Front Lawn :roll: .

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:15 am
by Felgar
AttentionKMartShoppers wrote:Wait Wait Wait Felgar....Canadians have a commy party? A legit party whose aim is to destroy all forms of government (which will of course lead to anarchy).
As bizzt said, they are not actually communist. They are very socialist, so it's hyperbole to refer to them as communist. If they had their way, Canada would have very similar systems to Sweden... Basically a welfare state.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:10 pm
by ochotseat
bizzt wrote:
Actually the Dutch have gone that Far! They have Nude Beaches everywhere! At least the last time I was there which was about 12 years ago.
According to Fel's link, topless nudity is legal in Toronto. :o
Felgar wrote: If they had their way, Canada would have very similar systems to Sweden... Basically a welfare state.
They should hear about how socialist policies are failing in Western Europe.