are liberals bound for hell?

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are liberals bound for hell?

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This is in response to p's thread, which implies that conservatives may be headed for hell.

http://www.bible-infonet.org/ff/article ... _03_19.htm

Liberals Hate Christians
By Mark K. Lewis

Recently I was having a conversation, over the Internet, with an agnostic from Missouri. During our conversation, he accused religious people of being "mean­spirited, hateful, judgmental." I asked him, "If everybody in this country would faithfully follow the teachings of Jesus, how many drug pushers would there be? How many cases of AIDS? How many battered wives? How many illegitimate children living in poverty?" He was honest enough to answer, None," to which I replied that such is the goal of the religious, though eternal salvation must be the ultimate aim.

The conversation was instructive in other ways and led me to ponder the question of why liberals hate religion. There is no doubt that the reasons vary among individuals, but it is important for us to realize that hatred of religion is inherent in the liberal philosophy simply because of what they view as the results of religion.

Over 200 years ago, the French philosopher, Voltaire, wrote:

Religion is the chief cause of all the sorrows of humanity. Everywhere it has only served to drive men to evil, and plunge them in brutal miseries...it makes for history an immense tableau of human follies.

An influential 19th century American, Benjamin Franklin Underwood, explained further:

To many liberals, Christianity appears an unmitigated evil; a superstition which although it had its origin in innocent ignorance and credulity, has been the greatest obstacle to human progress that mankind has had to encounter.

Liberals' obvious hatred of (their understanding of) Christianity in our country today proceeds from their belief that Christianity has been a hindrance to progress and has resulted in much evil. Rather than liberals reading the New Testaments and trying to comprehend what the religion of Jesus Christ really is, they prefer to look back in history and recall cruelties, immoralities, and butcheries done by those who really have no close connection to the truth and label that Christianity.

In other words, Christianity is a hindrance to liberal ideas of progressive social relations. It must be removed. This is a cardinal tenet of liberalism today, and it is clear why there is no desire among the left to promote the Christian faith, why they defend abortion, homosexuality, pre­ and extramarital sex, and almost every other vile crudity that pervades our country: men must be "free," and Christianity is the greatest obstacle to that freedom and does all sorts of evil to prevent people from being "free" In the liberal mind, "freedom" equals "progress," so, Christianity must be eliminated, or at least relegated to a non­influential role in society's affairs.


Why Liberals Hate God
By Doug Hagin

Liberals seem to have a tough time deciphering certain portions of the writings of our Founding Fathers. Specifically, the Bill of Rights really seems to trip them up. For example, they read the Second Amendment protecting the right of the people to keep and bear arms to mean a right to carry a gun only if you are in the National Guard.

Now the fact that the National Guard did not exist at the time the Constitution was written does not faze Liberals, they simply dislike what the Bill of Rights says so they create a new definition for it. A definition, which suits their agenda of limited liberties instead of, limited government.

No amendment trips the Left up more often though than the very first one. Especially the first line of this Amendment. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”

Now really this is pretty clear and extremely easy to understand. The Amendment prevents Congress from making any law favoring any specific religion while protecting our right to exercise whichever religion we choose freely.

Truly no free society could ever have it any other way. The First Amendment guarantees no American will be forced to
financially support, or attend any establishment of religion. Yet Liberals have really missed the mark on this one.

To suit their meaning they have construed the First Amendment to mean no religion of any kind, especially Christian religions, in public at all. No Manger scenes at Christmas, no Ten Commandments in a government building, no teaching creationism in schools, no mentioning God anywhere but church or home. Of course this is asinine. The Founders were very clear in regards to the freedom of religion.

A town placing a Nativity scene on a courthouse lawn is not a violation of the Constitution. Nothing in the Constitution comes even remotely close to banning this. After all Congress, which the First Amendment prevents from making laws respecting an establishment of religion, has nothing to do with placing the manger scene there does it?

The same applies with teaching creation in schools. Certainly teaching the scientific evidence of Creation and discussing it with students neither curtails the free exercise of religion or forces an establishment of religion on the students.

Certainly a Judge, or any government official placing a copy of the Ten Commandments on the wall of his office is not an act of Congress either so that too is not a violation of our constitution.

Yet Liberal Judges and lawyers and Liberal activists have been allowed to twist and pervert the meaning of the First Amendment to ban any mention of religion in the public forum. They have done this simply to suit their ideology and vision of America.

This vision is one where God and any mention of Him are limited to the privacy of your home or to a church setting. To Liberals God does not deserve a place in our government at all. Despite the fact our nation was founded on Judeo-Christian principles, and despite the fact many of our Founders were believers who credited our Creator with the blessings of liberty.

Yet Liberals continue in their fervent desire to erase any mention of God, the Bible, or Christianity in our nation. Why do they campaign so eagerly for God to be escorted out of our schools, government, courtrooms, and public places?

Simply put God is not only our Creator but also the source of all liberty, and the source of our nation's founding. The Founders made all this very, very clear. And this scenario my friends just does not match the Liberal utopian fantasy the Left wants America to be.

In Liberal think government, run by Liberals of course, is the sole source of liberty and the judge of how much liberty the people can be trusted with. God gets in the way of this since He is the true source of our freedoms. So Liberals must first push God out of the way before they can establish their god, government, as the Supreme Being.

Hence the steady campaign by the Left to remove God as far as possible from as many places as possible.

Now I am sure to get angry emails from God-fearing Liberals protesting this column. And surely there will be those who insist there is a separation of church and state which prevents public displays of religion. But here is the challenge to those well meaning folks. Tell me exactly which religion is established by posting the Ten Commandments or teaching creation? Tell me how Congress has respected an establishment of religion when these things occur?

The fact is I have asked many these questions and never received a satisfactory answer. The First Amendment is very clear and concise. Liberals just do not like what it says.
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