If I weren't so lazy...!
You know, I have the energy and motivation to get frustrated and upset, but apparently not for correcting what upset me! Maybe I'll force myself this once:
Sug wrote:how are you so sure its faked?? I dont really think so, as there is no reason why someone would want to fake it, I believe.
I can't know what faked and what's not unless I'm given something to judge it by, (unless the Spirit discerns for me.) There are indicators to look for. Yes, there are reasons to fake it. Emotionalism, desire for greater spirituality, desire to be saved, (if you believe you must have the gift in order to be saved,) pride and the desire to show-off, fear of admitting you don't have the gift when you think so many others around you do, fun, peer pressure... tons of reasons.
1 Corinthians 12:30,31
"All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they? But earnestly desire the greater gifts."
1 Corinthians 13:1
"If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal."
1 Corinthians 14:1-28
"Pursue love, yet desire earnestly spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy. For one who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God; for no one understands, but in his spirit he speaks mysteries. But one who prophesies speaks to men for edification and exhortation and consolation. One who speaks in a tongue edifies himself; but one who prophesies edifies the church. Now I wish that you all spoke in tongues, but even more that you would prophesy; and greater is one who prophesies than one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may receive edifying. But now, brethren, if I come to you speaking in tongues, what will I profit you unless I speak to you either by way of revelation or of knowledge or of prophecy or of teaching? Yet even lifeless things, either flute or harp, in producing a sound, if they do not produce a distinction in the tones, how will it be known what is played on the flute or on the harp? For if the bugle produces an indistinct sound, who will prepare himself for battle? So also you, unless you utter by the tongue speech that is clear, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air. There are, perhaps, a great many kinds of languages in the world, and no kind is without meaning. If then I do not know the meaning of the language, I will be to the one who speaks a barbarian, and the one who speaks will be a barbarian to me. So also you, since you are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek to abound for the edification of the church. Therefore let one who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret. For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful. What is the outcome then? I will pray with the spirit and I will pray with the mind also; I will sing with the spirit and I will sing with the mind also. Otherwise if you bless in the spirit only, how will the one who fills the place of the ungifted say the "Amen" at your giving of thanks, since he does not know what you are saying? For you are giving thanks well enough, but the other person is not edified. I thank God, I speak in tongues more than you all; however, in the church I desire to speak five words with my mind so that I may instruct others also, rather than ten thousand words in a tongue. Brethren, do not be children in your thinking; yet in evil be infants, but in your thinking be mature. In the Law it is written, "BY MEN OF STRANGE TONGUES AND BY THE LIPS OF STRANGERS I WILL SPEAK TO THIS PEOPLE, AND EVEN SO THEY WILL NOT LISTEN TO ME," says the Lord. So then tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophecy is for a sign, not to unbelievers but to those who believe. Therefore if the whole church assembles together and all speak in tongues, and ungifted men or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are mad? But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an ungifted man enters, he is convicted by all, he is called to account by all; the secrets of his heart are disclosed; and so he will fall on his face and worship God, declaring that God is certainly among you. What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation Let all things be done for edification. If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and one must interpret; but if there is no interpreter, he must keep silent in the church; and let him speak to himself and to God."
I paste it in full in the post so that ones lazy like myself will be encouraged to read it(!).
And please do! Many questions and concerns regarding tongues can be answered in those verses.
led wrote:It's a great way to bring yourself from feeling defeated to feeling strong in the Lord again.
The way you spoke of it, correct me if I'm wrong, had me thinking that you choose when to speak in tongues, and can begin, if not continue until the end, the process. If it's of you, it's not divine tongues, and not a gift of the Holy Spirit, but a self-made gibberish language. Divine tongues is a gift given by God, and biblically, He's the one to begin and continue it. We do not know the divine language, but the Spirit gives us utterance in it. Please be careful not to deceive yourself, or to be deceived by others.
IRQ wrote:the intercessor (Holy Spirit)
No, Jesus is the intercessor- he's the one that stands between us and the Father and intercedes on our behalf when Lucifer accuses us.
IRQ wrote:We should pray to God in tongues (in secret, not openly)
Um, no.
Read the long passage I quoted above. Openly is not only good, it is best, but only if you have one who can interpret. And remember, not all are given the gift of tongues, though Paul wishes we all had it so we could experience it and be benefited by it that way... though we can all benefit if we have an interpreter.